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BZE Radio Community Show Podcasts 2017-09-08T12:00:31+00:00


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The BZE Radio Community Show is a one hour podcast focusing on climate solutions across society locally, regionally and around the globe and goes live every Monday at 5pm. The show aims to provide up-to-date news about community climate solutions and events from around Australia, including interviews with scientists, community and business leaders and economists just to name a few.
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Mon 18th Dec 2017

How would carbon rationing work?

Would it be forever?

Would it hurt?

BZE’s Vivien Langford talks to author Stan Cox in Salina Kansas about his book “Anyway you slice it”.

Some people  are aware of the Climate Emergency, but others behave as if unaware. Australia’s per capita aviation emissions for example  are 18 metric tonnes compares to 5 for a French Citizen.

What if this generation put a cap on fossil fuelled travel and energy use? Would it feel better if it was an app on your phone and was called a Carbon Allowance?

We say that the bulk of existing coal oil and gas must stay underground, so shouldn’t we treat these as precious commodities, to be rationed while we make the transition? A Government committee in the UK researched this and said it could become an essential measure but that it was” an idea before its time”. We look into why it is such a taboo subject.

“How the world breaks” is a new book by Stan Cox and his son Paul. We talk to Paul Cox in Copenhagen about the anthropology of disaster response. He praises countries like Bangladesh as the Netherlands without a budget”. He wants us to stop talking bout “natural;” disasters as if there was nothing we could do to mitigate them. When Greens MP Adam Bandt called PM Tony Abbott a “climate criminal ” during a Blue Mountains bush fire, he was condemned as insensitive. But when is there a “right time to connect the  dots”? Paul talks about our bushfires and the floods and landslides that are testing resilience around the world. He says economists fear any restraint on growth more than they fear the worst that climate change can bring us.

How to change the narrative? Send us your ideas to :


Stan Cox – author of “Anyway you slice it ” and ” How the world breaks”

Paul Cox- Anthropologist and author “How the world breaks”

Music by David Rovics “East Tenessee”, Bangladeshi singer Mak Bul Chowdhury, and “Spirit of Place” sung by Yirmal Marika and Shane Howard.



Andy Britt  with interviews by Vivien Langford


Roger Vize and Jodie Green

Thanks to 3CR for help with SKYPE.


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18 Dec 2017|Categories: Community Show|

CHRISTINE MILNE  An activist life

Mon 11th Dec 2017

BZE radio has spoken often to Christine Milne because she has always been at events to defend the Renewable energy target, the clean energy package and to rid parliament of fossil fuel influence.

Her memoir  shows “how hard it is not to become bitter about the ruthless ” people in power. Even at a time of bereavement  they pressured her to perform.

Her awareness of the urgency of climate action and the difficulty of translating that into enduring legislation are a lesson for those who want system change.

Vivien took the ferry over to Hobart where the retired senator was surrounded by friends.It was  at the launch of “An activist life” in Fullers Bookshop . The atmosphere was warm and full of the laughter  and friendship that underpins action.

We hear Christine in conversation with Tasmanian historian James Boyce.

In the interview that starts this show Christine Milne talks to Vivien about her love of history and Science. She reports that  climate activists now  are facing much harsher penalties than in her day when she was  jailed over the Franklin River campaign.

It is tough in parliament and it is tough pressuring parliament. But it is tougher if you are a forest animal in a logging coupe. It is tougher if you are a child now whose climate will be irreversibly changed. So as Christine says,”I know you will never give up”.


Production- Andy Britt

Interviews- Vivien Langford

Podcasts-Jodie Green and Roger Vize

Promotions? – YOU!. Please forward this podcast to advance knowledge and inspire action.


11 Dec 2017|Categories: Community Show|


Mon 4th Dec 2017

World Antarctic Day, December 1st- 2017 was celebrated by a huge Marine Protected Area in the Ross Sea coming into force. As the head of International Greenpeace Antarctic Campaign Frida Begtsson said “Healthy oceans take in vast quantities of CO2 and are essential in tackling climate change”
Tonight BZE radio goes to the cryosphere where you will meet scientists and sustainability leaders we can be proud of. You will hear about Katabatic winds,krill, ice cores that show Australian droughts centuries ago and ocean circulation that controls the climate.
After visiting the replica of Mawson’s hut in Hobart, Vivien went past a sculpture of Roald Amundsen and into the epicentre of Antarctic research ACE CRC. It’s near Salamanca Place.
Dr Jan Lieser is a marine glaciologist. His satellite technology helps him advise ships as the summer seasonstarts.. Sea Ice is his speciality as it expands and contracts every year. It doesn’t affect sea level but its great pulse churns the ocean circulation that controls our climate. A film he wants us to watch is called “Chasing Ice”

David Reilly is the public affairs manager at ACE CRC. He talks with pride about the united nations of scientists beavering away in the labs and the benefits of co-operation. Their research can be immediately used by farmers, as a snowfall in Antarctica can predict a drought in W.A. Publications and media outreach have taught him to tell it straight. Climate deniers may cherry pick the data but the scientists’ job is to inform the world in a clear and dependable way.

Corey Peterson is at The University of Tasmania. His interest is more with krill, penguins and the policies that will protect them. He sent Christine Milne two jars of deep Antarctic water to remind her that climate change may be happening out of sight but her battles for enlightened climate policies in parliament were appreciated. He feels that Governments mostly follow, so it up to this generation of Antarctic scientists, ecologists and students in every sector to show them what has to be done. MUSIC tonight thanks to Kristin Rule and her cello pieces from The Knife that cuts a tear and Tiny Tim for The Icebergs are melting !

Production- Andy Britt

Interviews- Vivien Langford

Podcasts-Jodie Green and Roger Vize

Promotions? – YOU!. Please forward this podcast to advance knowledge and inspire action.

Links : ACE CRC

Chasing Ice

An Activist Life by Christine Milne-

Sea Ice and Climate change

04 Dec 2017|Categories: Community Show|


Mon 27th Nov 2017

If Marco Polo returned from China today he’d be telling barely credible stories of wind turbines with livestock grazing beneath them.
Australians coming back from Europe tell the same stories, with the kicker that Australia itself is sitting on a FABULOUS wind resource.
If we could think BIG wouldn’t we be able to hurry to 100% and then beyond?. So why all the delays?
We wanted to find out how the wind industry is going here. It has been in the doldrums with the wrong signals coming out of Canberra but the Clean Energy Council says there is $5.2billion worth of projects with secure finance and ready to go.
We will talk to Andrew Bray from the Australian Wind Alliance for the big picture. We will then go back to 2012 when Viv interviewed a farmer called Paul Reardon . Many listeners told us they liked what he had to say about drought proofing his farm by hosting a few turbines. This meant that he could cut down the number of sheep he was grazing and re vegetate some of the land.
We decided to call Paul again this year and hear what happened next at Boorowa.
Finally we will talk to Charlie Prell who is with Farmers for Climate Action, about the “Crookwell 2” project. This includes turbines on his farm, a neighbour benefit sharing agreement and a Community Enhancement Fund. Their energy will even light up Parliament house as the ACT government has contracted to take the energy they supply.

Read more:


Andy Britt – production
Vivien Langford- interviews
Roger Vize – podcast and archives
Jodie Green – podcast graphics and promotion
27 Nov 2017|Categories: Community Show|

Zero Carbon Recap

Mon 20th Nov 2017

Erin interviews Vanessa Petrie(BZE CEO) about BZE accomplishments in 2017 and what is planned for the coming year.
She also interviews Suzanne Harter – ACF Climate Change & Clean Energy Campaigner.

27 Nov 2017|Categories: Community Show|


 Mon 6th Nov 2017

What lessons can we learn from  Bangladesh?

The 2017 floods in the north of Bangladesh coincided with over half a million refugees staggering in from Myanmar in the east.

India has built a security fence with armed guards around its border with Bangladesh. But despite being on the frontline, this country is NOT intending to create climate refugees.

Vivien learns how Bangladesh is adapting. Tom Bamforth from Red Cross/Red Crescent has recently been there.  Climate Scientist Dr Saleemul Huq is on skype from Dhaka at the International Centre for Climate Change and Development. He is a beacon of adaptation expertise and humanity.

He will inspire you with what a country rich in community spirit is doing. He says to  us “We  don’t want your money, we want your empathy”.

Australia’s  task is to see the victims of our emissions. As he says , continuing carbon exports and carbon pollution is “not a victimless crime” and the climate criminals must pay. Of course emergency aid is needed,  but the ball is in our court to rapidly decarbonise.

We can also co operate at the  Bonn Climate COP in November to compensate front line countries for the unbearable loss and damage they are dealing with.

Rob Roggema is Professor of Sustainable Urban Environments at UTS in Sydney. Dutch expertise is much in demand among low lying countries like Bangladesh. He will tell us how  to go with nature, letting the rivers flood, saving the water in city reservoirs and building to prevent damage.

This encouraging show will help us rebuild our civil society and remember we have choices, going under is not inevitable.

Tom Bamforth   –   Red Cross/ Red Crescent
Dr Saleemul Huq-  International Centre for Climate Change and Development

Professor Rob Roggema – UTS- Sustainable Urban Environments

Vivien Langford – Interviews
Andy Britt-       Production
Jodie Green and Roger Vize -Podcasts
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DCAN is holding a MUSIC FOR A WARMING WORLD fundraiser event next Sunday 12th
04 Nov 2017|Categories: Community Show|

In the Land of the Lyrebirds

Mon 30th October 2017

In the land of the lyrebirds  everyone is enthralled.

Scientists  measuring the carbon stock, citizens battling the pulp mill, visionaries with maps of the linked up forests, all pause.
The first people who came in to this moist forest with its giant trees going back hundreds of years, must have laughed to hear the lyrebird imitate a kookaburra, imitate a cracking branch, imitate them. When the wildfires went through what a thing to be mourned.
As we learn new words like eco- system services and legacy industries, what will be the future of this carbon dense series of forests from central Victoria to Southern NSW?. They are our richest ecological asset.

Bringing you  a narrative of restoration in these febrile times of climate disruption:

Paul Payton from the Great Southern Forest Alliance

Dr Heather Keith  from The Fenner School of Environment and Society A.N.U.

Steve Meacher from The Great Forest National Park

Daisy Barham from Nature Conservation Council of N.S.W.

Interviews by Vivien Langford and Kurt Johnson. Production by Andy Britt. Podcast by Jodie Green and Roger Vize

Youtube by wildlife artist Stephen Powell

Further reading :

Tom Griffiths-  Forests of Ash . An environmental history.
Heather Keith -The Conversation “Money can’t buy me love, but you can put a price on a tree. Oct 11th 2017
The Great Forest National Park



29 Oct 2017|Categories: Community Show|

The AFR Energy Summit 2017

This BZE Radio episode was broadcast on Monday 23rd October 2017
“Every parrot in the pet shop is talking about Energy Policy” ACCC

But for a summit , a lot of voices were absent. Big Wind, Big Solar and the growing movement of citizens, intellectuals and NGO’s demanding the rapid energy descent away from coal oil and gas. The chiefs who supply us with over 80% of our dirty energy were there as the clean energy target was swallowed up and the National Energy Guarantee emerged.

The NEG requires Energy Retailers to give a guarantee of reliability. They will need to contract or own a certain amount of dispatchable power. As more coal fired power stations close, this could mean they invest in pumped hydro storage , batteries or gas turbines. In a heatwave when all the air conditioners go on, pumped hydro storage can turn on in 20 seconds and batteries in 1 second, according to Professor Andrew Blakers ANU.  He says 20 or 30 of the 22,000 possible sites need to be developed for pumped hydro storage and they can be built quickly, but none of this was discussed at the summit.

The NEG also requires retailers to guarantee electricity with a set level of emissions intensity. The amount will be reduced each year. The emissions from gas were hardly mentioned. Does this mean the responsibility for our Paris Commitments is in the hands of retailers?

Many of the people we interview say that we need a carbon tax to cut emissions in every sector and it was clear at the summit that even business leaders who had opposed this in the past were now demanding any sort of policy framework as long as it could survive short term governments. Mark Butler said  “At the end of the day companies will start contracting and trading with each other and a price will emerge on that which reflects the carbon obligation”.

Comments that the RET was a subsidy to renewables ,that all subsidies are out and we now have a level playing field might bamboozle some people. But until all subsidies to fossil fuels are removed and Dr Finkel’s recommendation that we have an Economy Wide Plan by 2020 to map out the energy descent away from fossils, we are expected to trust to the market.

We hear from
Chief Scientist Dr Allan Finkel Environment and Energy Minister Josh Frydenberg Opposition leader Bill Shorten ACOSS head Cassandra Goldie National Farmers Federation  leader Fiona Simpson.
22 Oct 2017|Categories: Community Show|

Rethinking Cement: Podcast

Rethinking Cement

BZE Community Radio Show podcast.
Aired: Monday 16 October 2017


  • Jordi Bates,
  • Kathryn Bennett,
  • Michael Lord and
  • Tim Buckley

You may not have been thinking very much about cement, but BZE researchers have.

Manufacturing cement makes up 8% of world carbon emissions and rising.

Could it be made without these emissions?

Would a price on carbon make us look differently at fly ash?

Don’t be dismayed.

Michael Lord makes it all clear as he launches the new BZE report Rethinking Cement in Newcastle.

Vivien also learns about the late Jen Bates from her husband and mother. They dedicated the new report to her because of her dynamic support of BZE in Newcastle and to her lifetime’s work protecting our precious environment.

Staying with heavy industry, Tim Buckley speaks to Dirt radio about Whitehaven Coal.


12 Oct 2017|Categories: Community Show|