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The BZE Radio Community Show is a one hour podcast focusing on climate solutions across society locally, regionally and around the globe and goes live every Monday at 5pm. The show aims to provide up-to-date news about community climate solutions and events from around Australia, including interviews with scientists, community and business leaders and economists just to name a few.
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What is a Just Transition?

Monday 10th Sept 2018

After the Smoke Clears – Episode 2

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Today we return to the Latrobe Valley – to ask “what is a just transition?”  In other words how can we phase out coal and phase in renewables without hurting the families and communities that relied on coal for income and power.
We are joined by:
Michael Mersmann: the Director of Globalisation and European Policy,  for the German Union for Mining,  Chemicals and Energy workers.  He presided over what is widely considered one of the most successful examples of transitioning from Coal to renewables in history. Between 1997 to 2015 a partnership between government,  industry and the unions oversaw the reduction of 72,820 jobs.  Their credo and philosophy was “that no miner would be unemployed”.


Geoff Dyke: is the Victorian branch secretary of the mining and energy division of the CFMEU and Moe resident.  Geoff experienced first-hand exactly what privatisation meant for the Latrobe Valley community and workers.  He can testify to exactly what happens when a transition is not managed correctly – the opposite of a just transition has to be an unjust transition.


Ged Kearney: Ged Kearney is the member for Batman in federal parliament but back in 2016.  When the closure of Hazelwood was announced,  she was the president of the ACTU.  I’ve asked Ged to come on the show because of her outspoken support of a Just Transition.





Radio team: Roger Vize,  Kurt Johnson and Vivien Langford

10 Sep 2018|Categories: Community Show|


Monday 3rd Sept 2018

Ian Dunlop –  Former Int Oil, Coal and Gas industry executive.  Now Co author “What lies beneath”
Louise Fraser– 350.Org campaigner for RISE FOR CLIMATE  global event
Sarah and Tim – Frontline Action on Coal – They stopped the coal trains into Newcastle for 3.5 hours TODAY!
Giles Parkinson –  Editor of Renew

Ian Dunlop

Did you know that Australia,  despite our small population,  is NOT a small contributor to climate disruption?
Ian Dunlop says that corporations need to rethink their business model as we are fourth in the world league of polluters.  He discusses the rot and incompetence at the top and calls for a Government of National Unity which can implement emergency measures.  As our Bangladeshi climate scientist said we are “climate criminals”.


Vivien Langford also speaks to Sarah Barron who stopped the coal trains today.  When she came down from her tripod she said “Mining and exporting coal in the face of what is already a  spiralling climate crisis is to condemn my generation”.
Sarah and Tim,  from Frontline Action on Coal speak about the community controlling the resources and justice for energy workers.  They noted that we now have a PM who looks like a front for the  Minerals Council,  a chief of staff who was a former coal boss,  an Energy minister who has campaigned against wind power and an Environment Minister who was a mining industry lawyer…
Is disrupting the coal port that disrupts the climate justified?
FLAC “It’s time to stand up and take action on climate change!  If not now,  then when?  If not you,  then who?”

Louise Fraser

Louise Fraser speaks about the global  “Rise Up for climate” on 8th September.  The Global Climate Action Summit in San Francisco 12-16 September will take action to the next level. State,  regional  and city governments will show what they have achieved and how we will make the Paris Agreement a reality.
Please attend events in your local area. There are at least 6 around Melbourne and in every state. Use this hashtag to invite your friends to step up #StepUp2018



Giles Parkinson   

Giles Parkinson reassures us that there are enough wind and solar projects for the industry to be getting on with while they  play with coal in Canberra.
However,  will the renewable industry take its bat and ball and go overseas?
Vivien desperately tries to think of something else for them to invest in but Giles is not so anxious.  Although it is frustrating he sees plenty to do on the clean energy front even exports to take the place of coal and gas! He also announced the new Renew Economy website devoted entirely to electric vehicles.


Links: “Rise for Climate” document (PDF)
‘What Lies Beneath’ by Ian Dunlop and David Spratt (

FLAC- (   Video “End Coal”   12-16th September in Newcastle
WIND FARM OPEN DAY-Sunday 21st October in NSW,  SA, Vic and WA
In Victoria: Bald Hills Wind Farm at Tarwin Lower / Cape Nelson South Wind Farm / Mt Gellibrand Wind Farm at Woorndoo.
Rise for Climate  – September 7th/8th Find an event near you.
People’s Referendum on Coal and Gas (



Radio team 3rd September:  Andy Britt Producer,  Roger Vize Podcasts,  Vivien Langford – Interviews

04 Sep 2018|Categories: Community Show|

Climate Warriors Alert. Stop Fracking the NT!

Monday 27th Aug 2018


Tim Forcey–  Author of  “What the Frack is going on?”
Shar Malloy–  Manager of the NT Environment Centre
David Smith–  Farmer and film maker ” Pipedreams and Fractured Lives”
Lifting the NT moratorium on fracking will unleash a carbon bomb that makes the Galilee Coal Emissions look pathetic. Paying farmers a percentage of royalties to extract gas on their land is a recipe for horror.
If we want to get the “Bentley Effect” and mobilise against new gas, oil and coal, we need to be grounded in facts.  The Australia Institute published a paper by Dr Elizabeth Hanna and Mark Ogge called  “Cooked with gas“.  They also presented a petition to the NT inquiry, signed by health professionals warning against a new fossil fuel province being opened up.  WITHOUT CLIMATE ACTION,  the number of extreme heat days would go up from 22 per year now to 132 in 2030. Darwin would be cooked by the gas it exported.
Tim Forcey made an expert  submission to the NT Scientific Inquiry into unconventional gas.  They published only SIX  lines about climate consequences  in a report of hundreds of pages and had no climate scientists on the panel.
He  talks to Vivien Langford about his paper “What the frack’s going on?”.  The inquiry found that fugitive emissions were hard to quantify, but Tim tells us about infrared imaging which clearly shows  the huge quantities of methane that escape.  Tim said the greatest wealth would come from NT oil,  co -located with the gas and they should have a new inquiry into that to be honest about the impacts.  As well as  the local emissions,  we can now quantify the exported emissions.
MEANWHILE certain extreme events  like Super Storm Sandy are being attributed to  Exxon,  Santos,  Shell et al who are being sued by New York city for billions in damages.  Despite the NT Scientific Panel giving the green light,  should the gas and oil industry STOP and THINK AGAIN?

Shar Malloy and the NT Environment Centre have called on the NT Government for a Comprehensive Climate Policy and BZE has backed them up.
She puts the Beetaloo Basin on the map for us,  500km south of Darwin between Katherine and Elliott.  Although she could not speak for the Traditional Owners she tell us how worried they are about fracking for gas.  There will be a gas pipeline from Tennant Creek to Mt Isa and despite some local advantages they are more worried about contaminated water and the impact of an industrial boom near them.  Shar says that  tourists will no longer be able to enjoy the dry heat of the north for much of the year as the increased rainfall and combination of humidity and heatwaves are likely to  cause irritability,  sleep deprivation,  extreme discomfort or death.  If workers have to disappear into a cool room throughout the day, livestock die and tourists stop coming the loss of productivity will be irreversible.
To endorse their call for a Comprehensive Climate policy go to the NT Environment Centre Website.

David Smith is a farmer turned film maker because of fracked gas.  He produces beef and prime lamb north of Mt Gambier and wants to protect the small part of SA suitable for farming.  Travelling to the USA and QLD where the dire  results can be seen,  he made a film called “Pipedreams Fractured Lives“. He was accompanied by politicians,  a vet and a doctor. The fractured lives  of people who feel they have been sacrificed,  whose water is undrinkable and whose land is worthless is harrowing.
But the warning of the film is for all those, especially governments and we who elect them, seduced by pipe dreams. David gave his phone number on air and urges listeners to contact him or look up his film on line to arrange a small screening.  If you show it on a double bill with The Bentley Effect you will show what can be done by people power.  Lock the Gate Alliance has achieved miracles but as a farmer says in David’s film “This industry won’t stop at your boundary”.  City people need to get behind the farmers who are trying to  protect our food  from fracking contamination.  The bigger picture is the climate cooked by gas which puts all our lives in jeopardy.

To Get Active:

This is a global movement to end the fossil fuel era and build 100% renewable energy for all.  In California there is a global Climate Action Summit on September 8th.  They are inviting every local leader to make a bold climate commitment.  To find an event near you go to:
September 7th 6pm Melbourne CBD-

Cast your vote.  Lock the Gate Alliance is collecting thousands of ballots to show politicians we want clean food, clean water and energy.  It is time to choose.  Will you cast your vote for change?’s referendum


“We stand  now where two roads diverge.  But unlike the roads in Robert Frost’s familiar poem, they are not equally fair.  The road we have long been travelling is deceptively easy,  a smooth super highway on which we progress with great speed but at the end lies disaster.  The other fork in the road, the one less travelled by, offers our last,  our only chance to reach a destination that assures the preservation of the earth.”

NT Gas expansion possibilities:


Radio team: Roger Vize,  Andy Britt and Vivien Langford

27 Aug 2018|Categories: Community Show|

Be Prepared! Malaysian Solutions plus Climate Engineering in Cambridge

Monday 20th Aug 2018

Dr Jeyakumar Devaraj

Dr Jeyakumar Devaraj lost his seat in the last election but he is exhilarated that the change of government in Malaysia has permitted a new optimism.
Vivien Langford  asks him how a new Bandung Spirit would unleash strong climate action.  While waiting and waiting for UN green funds maybe ASEAN nations can work together for a new dispensation.
He says Malaysia shouldn’t have to cut its health budget to plant trees for carbon sequestration. The funds to help developing countries tackle climate change are insufficient but he says even the developed nations are cash strapped and unable to help while their top 0 .1% of wealthy corporations  evade tax.  Malaysians are already experiencing intensified floods and heatwaves.
They produce only 70% of their food so Dr Devaraj has many solutions to protect the population:  from flood mitigation to guaranteeing that land is used to produce food first.  He is hopeful that new bold laws will enable restoration of forests,  rivers and farmlands.  Malaysians have witnessed that the unexpected can happen in government and the  lesson we can draw is to prepare for the unexpected. Have the projects and blueprints ready. This fits in with the reasoning  behind Beyond Zero Emissions and broadens our awareness to our near neighbour. You can read a talk given by Dr Jeyakumar Devaraj in Kuala Lumpur here.

Dr Hugh Hunt

Dr Hugh Hunt was involved in a Cambridge University project called SPICE. (Stratospheric Particle Injection for Climate Engineering)  He is a reader in Engineering Dynamics and Vibration and feels that even environmentalists are disconnected from the carbon footprint of our economy . He talked to Vivien Langford at the Climate Adaptation Conference.  If we are unwilling to change our own behaviour such as flying, which for every hour in the air emits 100 kilos of CO2, shouldn’t we start talking about cooling the Arctic to buy time?  It is a hard conversation to have.  He does not want to see climate engineering but thinks we should build up our knowledge of what could go wrong.
Dr Hugh Hunt’s research into the effects of climate engineering is ON HOLD because of ethical concerns.
Yet where are the ethical concerns which would make us STOP before before flying or filling up a car with petrol?
Imagine you had to dispose of 25 white suitcases filled with CO2 after a long hall flight. These videos explain it for adults and children.
Imagine you are a world leader. You think it would be electoral suicide to ration fossil fuels and phase them out, so you dream about climate engineering to buy time.
What could go wrong ?
Are these videos a nudge in the right direction?

Radio Team : Andy Britt – Producer, Roger Vize- Podcasts, Vivien Langford – Interviews

20 Aug 2018|Categories: Community Show|

Zero Emissions Noosa

Monday 13th Aug 2018

Presenter/Producer: Erin Jones

Topic: Zero Emissions Noosa, NEG – Update, Save Westernport – Update

Today Erin Jones talks the campaign for Zero Emissions in Noosa, we get an update on the National Energy Guarantee, and the latest in the Save Westernport campaign

We speak with Vivien Griffin who is the President of Zero Emissions Noosa about the community initiative to move the Noosa community to zero emissions by 2026. A series of community consultation has just been undertaken outlining a Roadmap to achieve this goal. We discuss how the project has evolved – including the progress and process that has been taken.

Nicky Ison joins us to have a look at the outcome from the COAG Energy Ministers’ meeting last week and the negotiations for the governments proposed National Energy Guarantee. Nicky also penned a piece in today’s SMH about who really benefits from the NEG as it currently stands.

Finally we get an update from Louise Page from Save Westernport about the large scale AGL gas proposal for Westernport, and the growing community concern and action that is proposed.


Vivien Griffin

Vivien Griffin
Zero Emissions Noosa

Nicky Ison

Nicky Ison
Community Power Agency
Co-Founder & Director




Louise Page

Louise Page

Save Westernport


Get your tickets to the BZE Electrifying Industry Summit

13 Aug 2018|Categories: Community Show|

Electric Vehicles – Commercial Vans & Trucks

Monday 6th August 2018

Presenter/Producer: Erin Jones

Topic: Electric Vehicles – Commercial Vans & Trucks

Today Erin Jones talks Electric Vehicles – but of the commercial – truck and van variety.

We speak with Tony Fairweather from Sea Electric about the Vans and trucks they are producing using their SEA – Drive Technology for emissions free transport solutions – and hear about the cost savings that can be achieved now by transitioning fleets to EV – and not waiting. This technology can be deployed in both new and retro-fitted to existing vehicles. Be sure to hear Tony present at the BZE Electrifying Industry Summit

Greg McGarvie from ACE- EV is trying to get EV manufacturing off the ground in Australia. They are looking to launch vehicles starting at under $40,000, and will be displaying the first vehicle in AEVA Expo in Brisbane in November.


Tony Fairweather
SEA -Electric
Group Managing Director

Greg McGarvie
Managing Director


06 Aug 2018|Categories: Community Show|

After the Smoke Clears Episode 1

Monday 30th July 2018

This show we are going to the Latrobe Valley in Victoria – a place that is experiencing the opportunities and issues surrounding the transition from Coal to Renewables. For more information visit the website for After the Smoke Clears

Wendy Farmer

Wendy Farmer: Prominent community activist, Wendy Farmer rose up in the aftermath of the 2014 Hazelwood mine fire.  She has since been a tireless advocate for the community in the Latrobe Valley.  She tells us about life in Victoria’s Coal Country



Mark Richards

Mark Richards: ALP candidate for Morwell – Mark rose up from a unit operator at Hazelwood power station.  He experienced firsthand the cuts from privatisation and the closure of Hazelwood.  He has a lot of experience with the production of electricity and has a firm idea about what is involved in a Just transition – not just for the environment but for communities that have historically worked with coal.


Chris Barfoot

Chris Barfoot works with the Community Power Hub in the Latrobe Valley.   His sees great potential in the Valley – the opportunity to take advantage of being in the centre of the electricity grid – from here you can distribute renewables as you did coal.   Renewables like solar footpaths,  wind arrays off the coast,  geothermal and waste energy.  Exciting times ahead for Chris,  the important thing is getting the message right.


Peter Yacono and Anissha Vijayan

Peter Yacono and Anissha Vijayan:  The producers of OUR POWER  a brilliant documentary about the Latrobe Valley.  They were able to articulate the history of the Valley from the high point of the SECV to the lowest ebb of the 2014 Mine Fire and mass unemployment from Privatisation.




30 Jul 2018|Categories: Community Show|

Rethinking Agriculture

Monday 23 July 2018

As large parts of Australia are in drought and some farmers are having to shoot their livestock for lack of feed,  how can regenerative agriculture help farms become more resilient?

As there is a growing demand for meat and dairy products for export to Asia,  will we resist the land clearing and overstocking to protect the global climate?
The BZE land use discussion paper found that great emissions reductions could be achieved if we partly reduced the national herd and the land that is constantly cleared for grazing.  This show looks at family farms in eastern Australia and the million hectare agribusinesses in the north.  What progress are we making?

Charles Massey

Charles Massey’s book “Call of the reed warbler” reports on this century’s pioneers of regenerative farming. He describes the disasters that have jolted some farners out of industrialised agriculture into practices more in line with their love of nature and long term values.  As Vandana Shiva said  “Monoculture farming creates monocultures of the mind”  Charles brings us stories of innovation and diversity.  He talks about soil carbon sponges rehydrating the land,  how the current drought is affecting his place in the Monaro High Plains and how glyphosate is affecting our gut health.  Climate change is only one of the earth systems that has been pushed past the limit, but the thinking emerging from the farmers he meets could pull us back from the brink.

Richard Eckard

He is the director of the Primary Industries Climate Challenges Centre at Melbourne University.  Vivien asks whether drought assistance should be tied to new methods of farm management and whether mixed farming systems are more resilient to climate shocks.  Richard describes the NT and Qld pastoral leases which cover millions of hectares and how they can survive drought.

Will climate risk averse overseas shareholders pressure the companies that run these massive ranches to reduce emissions?  Can we reduce the sheer number of livestock on the land when it is so lucrative exporting into the high end market?
If the National Energy Guarantee is weak on emissions reductions will farmers do the heavy lifting?  The NFF says they have already taken significant steps to reduce their carbon footprint,  what more can be expected ?

He represents the sixth generation farming The Hill in New England.  His parents are famous for their innovations in agroforestry.  They had to be creative as the Great New England Eucalyptus Dieback in the 60’s denuded their place and many others. Vivien  talks to Michael about how younger farmers are building up more resilience and productivity while still remaining profitable.
To give you a taste of “The Call of the Reed Warbler” here is a description of the Taylor’s property by Charles Massey sitting on a hill.
” Below me I could barely see open paddocks.  The lazy S of contour winding tree breaks composed of mixed species seemed to merge into a forest.  Mist rose off the rehydrated lower country but most impressive was a cacophony of birdsong.  Flycatchers,  fantails,  honey eaters,  wood swallows and whistlers.  Truly here was a whole squadron of unpaid pest controlling,  pollinating and fertilising helpers willingly on the job.”
Regeneration,  restoration,  reversing the mistakes of early white settlers … This is the new narrative we need to hear.

Further Reading:
Petition by John Graham Peterson

The Radio Team 23rd July:  Andy Britt on production,  Roger Vize on podcasts and Vivien Langford -interviews

24 Jul 2018|Categories: Community Show|


Monday 16th July 2018

Today’s guests:
Mark Crossweller
–  Head of the National Resilience Task Force
Jo Dodds – Councillor at Bega Valley Shire Council
Rob Roggema – Professor of Sustainable Urban Environments UTS

Are global climate disruptions finding us unprepared for some emergencies, even in countries with high tech warning systems?  Psychologists say it is bad to paralyse people with frightening prospects.  The antidote is to BE PREPARED.

Mark Crossweller

Mark Crossweller  made a raw admission  about unsuccessful emergency responses in the Canberra and 2009 Victorian bush fires.  He said that communications with the public and media need to be a lot earlier.  He was speaking at the NCCARF Climate Adaptation Conference.  As Craig Lapsley says “There will be an increase in emergency days and disaster means you have to repurpose the city. People need to know where to go”




Jo Dodds

Jo Dodds witnessed the Tathra Bushfire this year and challenged the PM by saying “This is the very time to be talking about climate change.”  As Tathra is a town that is on the front foot with renewable energy and carbon sequestration, they were not comforted by our lack of urgency in cutting the emissions that intensify the weather.
As a writer Jo  conveys the emotional pain of loss that can sometimes linger for years after the climate emergency.  She spoke on the platform with Bill Mc Kibben at Collingwood Town Hall about accelerating our move away from fossil fuels and her vivid words will move you..


Rob Roggema

Rob Roggema  has put his mind to flood emergencies in Bangladesh.  He speaks about strategies to help the city of Dhaka grow more food in the city and detour the floodwaters that are increasingly disruptive.  His experience in the Netherlands has led him to collaborate with people in Bangladesh on landscaping the city to retain flood water, to calm it in extended or elevated rivers, to catch it in fish ponds and rooftop gardens.  Check out this link to see thrilling  pictures of  these plans which could repurpose a megacity for resilience.



16 Jul 2018|Categories: Community Show|